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Docherty - Calton/clydebank; Possible family ties to late 1880s
Topic Started: Nov 3 2013, 12:40 AM (6,075 Views)
steve

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Camillo

So in 1891 Edward isn't in Glasgow but is back there in 1901? Away playing football somewhere in 1891.

Is my reading of that right? If so, where is his family in 1901?
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steve

Harder to ID a guy away from his family, but the occupations here are a good match.

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1891 Scotland Census about Edward Docherty
Name: Edward Docherty
Age: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1870
Relationship: Boarder
Gender: Male
Where born: Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Registration number: 644/4
Registration District: Calton
Civil Parish: Glasgow Barony
County: Lanarkshire
Address: 218 Moncur St
Occupation: Iron Polisher
ED: 39
Household Schedule Number: 60
Line: 10
Roll: CSSCT1891_256
Household Members:
Name Age
Christopher French 30
Edward Docherty 21


I found a contemporary newspaper note of "Docherty from Jordan Hill" training with Notts County in the summer of 1892, but there's nothing else significant in the report..
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Camillo

The removal of the freebies from Scotlands people is a real pain.

Might have a look on the LDS website but even if it is him no discernible Celtic link so far.
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McKennan

Wow! Holy feckin' moley - and please excuse my language. Thank you very much for all this digging. Apologies for the tardy reply as I have been busy with work.

You have my family bang on with the census entries. I encountered an anomaly which, if it is correct, lends weight to theories about a man working away from his family in the early 1890s.

One of Ned's sons was John and we have two conflicting birth years for him in our family history - 1892 and 1894. I checked John's birth record in Edinburgh years ago and I noted it as 1892. However, I'm also finding records of him claiming to have been born in 1894. He was killed on the Somme in 1916 and all his army records say he was born in 1894. I might have the havers but I am sure I also read the 1894 birth date in a census.

The genealogy researcher is new to me as we are quite far removed from the Dochertys. I think I mentioned that they are all in England and the US. Our other East End families were Higgins, Kelly and Tweedlie. I think there are still Tweedlies in Brigton.

I think I'm going to start pestering a few football clubs. :thumbsup: What're you all drinking? :wink:
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McKennan

Camillo
Nov 7 2013, 10:53 PM
The removal of the freebies from Scotlands people is a real pain.

Might have a look on the LDS website but even if it is him no discernible Celtic link so far.
Certainly no link as a player but, thanks to the work you and others have done, I am convinced of some tie to the club. Your question about 1901 - that was the time the Dochertys went to Clydebank with Singers.

May I also ask, what was life like for a professional/semi-pro footballer in those days?
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Camillo

Looked at the marriage cert in Scotland people and the census of 1901. No sign of Edwards wife Catherine but it would seem that the grandchildren are with Ned. Was she still in England McKennan?

Edward definitley living with Matilda and it looks like Catherine 11 is his daughter.

In answer to your question I'd say that the extra cash may have made a bit of a difference to them in terms of survival (i.e. not living on the breadline) but at that level the earnings would have been meagre.
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